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In Moscow's Shadows

In Moscow's Shadows 116: Putin's "Forever War" (which isn't)

Oct 1, 2023
Exploring the concept of a 'forever war' in Putin's Russia, including its manipulation and impact on the Russian underworld. Discussing Britain's historical policy in the Balkans and its potential role in special operations. Speculating on Ukraine's will to continue fighting and the challenges of achieving lasting peace. Examining the appeal of the film Chiborashka and the fallacy of a 'forever war' narrative. Exploring expressions of resistance and critiquing the Soviet party state's shortcomings.
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Quick takeaways

  • The concept of a Forever War in Ukraine is a convenient notion for Putin, allowing him to dismay his enemies and provide an organizing principle for 'late Putinism.'
  • Ordinary Russians don't embrace the idea of war eternal, desiring a different future of a comfortable, prosperous, and just society.

Deep dives

The Concept of a Forever War and Russia's View of Britain

In this podcast episode, the concept of a Forever War is discussed, specifically in relation to the conflict in Ukraine. The host begins by sharing an article from a Russian state newspaper that accuses Britain of being interested in a world war and constantly undermining the constitutional order of the Balkan countries to prevent Russia's influence. However, the host argues that this view is rooted in historical perspectives and doesn't align with the current reality. The host then delves into the idea of a Forever War and how it can have negative implications, perpetuating a sense of inescapability and preventing the exploration of alternative solutions. The episode also explores how Putin leverages the concept of a Forever War to maintain control domestically and influence negotiations externally. The host highlights the impact of the war on Russia, including casualties, economic strain, and the tightening grip of repression. The podcast concludes by considering the views of ordinary Russians who desire a different future, often focusing on living in a comfortable, prosperous, and just society, contrary to the narrative offered by Putin's regime.

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