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THE MINING POD: How the BTC ETF Changes Investor Time Horizons

Oct 21, 2025
Blue Macellari, Head of Digital Assets at T. Rowe Price, discusses how institutional adoption is reshaping Bitcoin's market structure and the increasing role of ETFs in stabilizing the asset. He highlights the mainstreaming of the debasement trade and predicts the influence on retail behavior. Dale Nally, Alberta's Minister of Service Alberta, shares insights on the province's energy resources and regulatory reforms aimed at attracting Bitcoin miners. He emphasizes Alberta's abundant natural gas supply and competitive advantages for data center investment.
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INSIGHT

Institutions Change Bitcoin's Time Horizon

  • Institutional ETF adoption lengthens investor time horizons and adds holder stability.
  • Blue Macellari says that stability could materially change Bitcoin's historical four-year cycle behavior.
INSIGHT

Basis Trade Alters Market Mechanics

  • Onshore U.S. futures plus U.S. spot ETFs enable the basis trade and new hedging flows.
  • Macellari warns the basis trade can unwind and contribute to sell-offs when it reverses.
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Retail Is Fragmented Between Fast And Slow Money

  • Retail contains subgroups: long-term holders often use ETFs and IRAs while fast money stays on exchanges.
  • Macellari notes fast retail liquidity hasn't surged yet this cycle, limiting froth.
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