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China’s Manufacturing Dominance: State Directives & Ruthless Competition — Arthur Kroeber

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Jun 19, 2025
Arthur Kroeber, a founding partner at Gavekal Dragonomics and expert on China's economy, dives deep into China's high-tech manufacturing dominance. He likens the government's approach to a giant VC fund, fueling fierce local competition with massive subsidies. Kroeber challenges the adversarial mindset towards China, advocating for a cooperative strategy instead. He also analyzes the rapid evolution of China's electric vehicle sector and the implications of its ambitious tech goals amid rising global tensions.
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China's VC-Style State Strategy

  • China's growth strategy leverages massive subsidies and ruthless local competition akin to a giant VC fund.
  • Effectiveness in achieving outcomes matters more than financial efficiency at China's scale.
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Political & Economic Frictions

  • The key issue is political system differences between China and democracies like the US.
  • China's authoritarian system and its export-driven economy create friction with global norms and social cohesion.
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Cold War Analogy Fails

  • US-China relationship is much more integrated today than US-Soviet Cold War era.
  • Decoupling trade or investment is impractical given massive cross-border economic ties.
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