Cloud Security Podcast

Securing AI: Threat Modeling & Detection

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May 27, 2025
Joining the discussion are Jackie Bow, a technical lead at Anthropic focused on threat detection, and Kane Narraway, head of enterprise security at Canva specializing in zero trust. They debate whether AI is a security threat or an innovative ally. Jackie reveals how to harness AI, even its quirks, for effective threat detection, while Kane emphasizes the need for robust threat modeling amid new risks. They also tackle the complexities of AI in production and whether AI tools enhance or jeopardize security skills, all served with a dash of humor.
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INSIGHT

AI Skepticism in Detection

  • Traditional threat detection tools are often black boxes with poor AI capabilities.
  • Past AI-powered detection solutions frequently produced too many false positives, reducing trust in AI.
INSIGHT

AI Increases Risk Thresholds

  • AI systems in organizations introduce additional layers and expand risk surfaces.
  • Securing AI toolsets requires more effort due to increased complexity and attack vectors.
ADVICE

Control AI in Detection

  • Use large language models with visible prompts to control and tweak AI outputs.
  • Apply "best of end" techniques by having multiple model runs and selecting the best response.
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