TOAP is rolling fine! Today on the show: d.b.s. vocalist, Jesse Gander returns and this time he has brought along d.b.s. guitarist, Andy Dixon! Listen in as Damian sits down with two of his foundational music heroes to talk teenage punk stardom and beyond. From punk vs non-punk parents, never feeling comfortable in the Epi-fat world, early 90s Vancouver hardcore, their amazing post-dbs journeys and so much more: don't miss this one!

Also, check out Andy's incredible painted works here.

Also, check out Jesse's amazing recording work and other music projects here.

And for all your dbs needs, including the awesome new "Demos And B-Sides 1996-1999", head over here!