The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Dr Mark Kotter, co-founder of Meatable and Bit Bio, to talk about the synthetic biology revolution (4:10), growing flesh (7:00), the field’s “big bang” (9:15), lab-grown meat (16:30), how far we are from a reverse-engineered ribeye (20:00), the “Meat 2.0” era (22:00), the branding challenge (26:30), creating a synthetic biology platform (28:00), the human cell atlas (32:00), cells as a smartphone (37:10), selling cells to pharmaceutical companies (41:15), the stem cell issue (45:45), living forever (49:45), and raising money (52:50).