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Alice Ma [#75]: What Sports Can Learn From K-Pop and TikTok [Media with Jo Redfern and Michael Cohen]

Oct 29, 2025
Alice Ma, co-founder and CEO of Mad Realities and a Forbes 30 Under 30 honoree, delves into the intersection of entertainment and sports. She shares insights from founding ConstitutionDAO and creating audience-driven formats that resonate with Gen Z. Alice highlights lessons from K-Pop fandoms, suggesting sports teams should embrace fan engagement like K-Pop groups. The discussion also covers the rise of TikTok-style algorithms and the future of storytelling, emphasizing the value of authentic, human-crafted content in a crowded media landscape.
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ANECDOTE

Rapid Crowdfunding Win

  • Alice described raising $53M in seven days with ConstitutionDAO and scaling to 26,000 Discord members during that week.
  • She highlighted that inviting participation and getting Sotheby's to accept the bid were the decisive moments.
INSIGHT

TikTok Turned Content Into A Meritocracy

  • Alice argues TikTok-era discovery algorithms created a brutal meritocracy for content that rewards creativity regardless of traditional gatekeepers.
  • She says Gen Z still craves original premium IP and will reward formats that deliver it quickly.
ADVICE

Build Repeatable Format Engines

  • Design shows as repeatable, format-driven engines with clear first-five-second hooks and consistent accounts per show.
  • Constantly analyze platform algorithms and iterate episode length, openers, and cadence in real time.
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