In this episode, James Maude chats with industrial cybersecurity expert Lesley Carhart (aka "Hacks for Pancakes"), whose journey from programming on her family farm to protecting critical infrastructure was shaped by curiosity and determination. Lesley reveals how moths accidentally activating a power plant touchscreen led to a late-night "Chinese hackers" investigation, explains why she carries a "marriage counseling" sign when mediating between feuding IT and OT teams, and delivers a passionate wake-up call about the industry's mentorship crisis and the brutal reality facing cybersecurity newcomers today.
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