#33 – Johan Norberg: Capitalism, Degrowth, and Elon Musk

Johan Norberg is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute and a writer who focuses on globalization, human progress and intellectual history. He is the author of In Defense of Global Capitalism, Progress: Ten Reasons to Look Forward to the Future, and The Capitalist Manifesto: Why the Global Free Market Will Save the World.

Topics we discuss are well captured by the timestamps below. I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I enjoyed recording it!

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Timestamps

0:50 - How Johan changed his mind about human progress

3:50 - Pro-human flourishing cannot be anti-environment

5:33 - Alternative words to describe capitalism

8:30 - Why is there so much economic illiteracy?

12:36 - Despise poverty, not wealth or inequality

16:41 - We are taxing what we want more of

18:46 - Degrowth and the fall of western education

25:21 - The concept of “needs” is often abused

29:27 - How to have infinite growth on a finite planet

33:08 - Elon Musk

34:43 - Javier Milei and Argentina

39:34 - Privatizing law and justice systems

43:52 - Child labor

49:52 - Advice for young people

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