#54 "The Back Of The Bay" with Ben McKinnon and Sam Shepherd (GA)

Summary In this episode of the Tip of the Spear Leadership Podcast, Mike Nasti interviews Ben McKinnon and Sam Shepherd, both lieutenants in the fire service. They discuss the importance of being the firefighter your kids think you are and the need for a strong foundation in your career. They emphasize the role of officers in setting a good example and being a leader both at work and at home. The conversation also touches on the challenges of transitioning from firefighter to officer and the importance of allowing firefighters to make their own decisions and learn from their mistakes. In this conversation, Mike Nasti interviews Ben and Sam from the Back of the Bay podcast. They discuss the role of a fire department officer and the importance of being versatile and adaptable. They emphasize the need for officers to be both doers and finessers, taking on different roles as needed. They also discuss the importance of creating a positive culture within the fire department and the impact of their podcast in promoting growth and improvement within the fire service. The conversation concludes with reflections on memorable firefighting experiences and advice for new officers. Takeaways Be the firefighter your kids think you are and set a good example for them and the community. A strong foundation is crucial for a successful career in the fire service. The transition from firefighter to officer can be challenging, but it's important to find a balance between being a boss and being one of the guys. Allow firefighters to make their own decisions and learn from their mistakes. Communication and repetition are key to effective leadership in the fire service. Fire department officers need to be versatile and adaptable, taking on different roles as needed. Creating a positive culture within the fire department is crucial for growth and improvement. The Back of the Bay podcast has been successful in promoting growth and motivating firefighters to be their best. Memorable firefighting experiences can teach valuable lessons and help officers become better leaders. New officers should focus on personal growth and invest time in making themselves and their crew better. The Importance of a Strong Foundation Finding the Balance Between Boss and Buddy Advice for New Fire Department Officers The Impact of the Back of the Bay Podcast "Be the firefighter your kids think you are." "Set a good example for your crew and the community." "The challenges of transitioning from firefighter to officer." "You have to figure out where you fall into place in the scenario and the situation or the scenario and the job can be different." "You know, it just, it just changes and it makes things so different." "If you think that bugles equivalates to being able to just watch your crew work basically, then you're wrong."