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Five years ago, we reconnected, basically as strangers. Five years later, we’re best of friends and business partners.

When I decided to relaunch Playing the Inner Game in full HD video, leaving behind the lo-fi days of Zoom and audio only recordings, I knew exactly who the first guest had to be.

Benjamin Quinlan

Back in 2020, we sat down for what was supposed to be a 90-minute podcast🎙️

I turned off the mics, but six hours later, we were still talking.

And by the end of that night, he’d all but insisted I join him in building something meaningful together.

Today, I’m proud to be a Partner and Head of Corporate Training at Quinlan & Associates working with some of the world’s most respected companies, helping their leadership teams communicate with clarity, confidence, and charisma.

In this episode, we go deep not only into our working relationship, but into:

What it means to lead in a high-pressure world
The often-unspoken issue of executive burnout
How to sell advice in tough markets
And how to build connection in both business and life

You’ll also hear from a man I deeply admire about what’s changed him most over the last five years… and what he’d regret not changing in the next five.

I hope you enjoyed this conversation as much as I did.

And if you did, drop a comment down below and hit that like button!

For any Strategy Consulting or Corporate Training Enquiries you can contact visit https://www.quinlanandassociates.com/

Connect with Benjamin Quinlan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjamin-quinlan-17b32416/

Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelxcampion/

(00:00) Introduction

(00:40) What’s Changed Since 2020

(06:03) Consulting Landscape Post Pandemic

(09:10) The Evolution of Client Needs

(13:25) How to Attract and Retain Top Talent

(18:24) The Reality of Executive Burnout

(22:41) How to Manage Expectations

(30:11) The Art of Communication

(36:37) How to Build Instant Rapport

(41:14) How to Deal With Over Communication

(45:54) The Art of Sales and Persuasion

(54:52) Using Comedy to Fuel Business and Creativity

(58:47) Pursuing Growth and Avoiding Stagnation

(01:02:00) The Truth About Procrastination

(01:04:16) How to Deal with Fear of Failure

(01:07:10) How to Build Confidence

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