The Next Level

1029: Heritage Foundation Americans | Secret Podcast

Oct 31, 2025
The hosts dive into the Heritage Foundation's unease over Tucker Carlson's connections with Nick Fuentes. They dissect how socialism will be weaponized in post-election rhetoric and explore the blurred lines between government and private market interests. A heated debate unfolds on whether government ownership equates to socialism. The duo also covers shifting voter sentiments in key states and how high turnout could signal an anti-Trump wave benefiting certain Democrats. It's a whirlwind of political analysis that's both sharp and witty.
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INSIGHT

Government As Market Actor

  • The federal government is using big contracts to seed and then capture returns from private companies like Westinghouse and Intel.
  • Jonathan V. Last argues this amounts to state control over production rather than free-market capitalism.
INSIGHT

Ownership Stakes Look Like Social Control

  • Sarah Longwell and Jonathan Last say taking ownership stakes and golden shares is more akin to seizing means of production than to capitalism.
  • They warn conservatives should be critical when government extracts profits and control from private firms.
ADVICE

Focus Criticism On Real State Intervention

  • Push conservative critiques toward real examples of state intervention, not college-level DSA socialism.
  • Write sustained pieces exposing how government-backed deals pick winners and extract returns from taxpayers.
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