The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

298. Perception: Chaos and Order | Dr. Karl Friston

Oct 20, 2022

In this discussion, renowned neuroscientist Dr. Karl Friston shares insights on how our micro-narratives shape perception and decision-making. He explains the free energy principle and its role in minimizing uncertainty within our minds. The conversation explores the interplay between dopamine and narratives during cognitive development, and how neurotransmitters affect our mental health. They also dive into the balance between chaos and order, emphasizing the transformative power of openness to new experiences and the importance of flexible storytelling in social interactions.

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The Impact of Negative Self-Talk and Error Propagation in Depressive Thinking

01:17

The Social Context of Predictability and Uncertainty in Niche Construction

01:28

Effective Introduction of Important Concepts

00:34

The Role of Acetylcholine in Attention and Hierarchy Levels

01:14

Intro

2min

Understanding Hierarchical Computation and the Role of Prayer

4min

Expectation and Anxiety Interplay

7min

Minimizing Surprise: The Mathematics of Uncertainty and Human Behavior

3min

Navigating Identity and Perception

23min

The Interplay of Narratives and Neurochemistry in Development

33min

Entropy, Goals, and the Brain's Response to Certainty

20min

Navigating Between Chaos and Order: The Role of Narrative and Exploration

2min

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Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Dr. Karl Friston discuss the world as we perceive it through micro narratives, how those narratives exist within a structured hierarchy, and how we can manipulate the system, and thus change our own mindsets.

Dr. Karl Friston is a renowned neuroscientist, and one of the leading researchers in brain imagery. He is credited for inventing statistical parametric mapping, an international standard for the analysis of imaging data. His work also pertains to the free energy principle, and predictive coding theory. Currently, he works as a professor of neuroscience at the University College London.

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(0:00) Coming up

(1:04) Intro

(2:43) The binding of entropy

(5:25) Motivation and Fantasy

(15:00) Hierarchy of micro narratives

(29:30) Frans de Waal, the paradox in prediction

(37:50) Inference and assuming the story

(46:15) Dopamine and diatic narratives

(54:33) Serotonin, the depressive mindset

(1:07:31) Acetylcholine

(1:10:29) The need to minimize free energy

(1:16:48) The left and right hemisphere

(1:22:20) Psychedelics and functional narratives

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