The Duran Podcast

'Imminent defeat' and push for a deal w/ Robert Barnes (Live)

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Nov 26, 2025
Robert Barnes, an attorney and political commentator known for his insights on law and geopolitics, discusses the shifting dynamics in U.S. policy towards Ukraine. He highlights how recent battlefield developments are pressuring Washington to seek peace negotiations. Barnes contrasts the entrenched deep state with a new realist faction pushing for de-escalation. The conversation delves into the impact of leaked diplomatic communications on these efforts, the roles key figures like Trump and Kushner play, and the broader implications for global geopolitics.
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INSIGHT

Washington's Two Competing Schools

  • Washington contains two rival factions: a geopolitical 'deep state' pushing perpetual conflict and a realist wing urging de-escalation with Russia.
  • Alexander Mercouris argues recent moves reflect a serious attempt by realist officials to grapple with battlefield realities in Ukraine.
INSIGHT

Deep State Versus Geopolitical Realists

  • Robert Barnes frames the conflict as a struggle between an entrenched deep state and a realist faction seeking to avoid escalation with Russia.
  • He warns deep-state influence spans Congress, bureaucracy, think tanks and media, blocking pragmatic solutions.
ADVICE

Talk Directly To The Other Side

  • Do pressure negotiators to talk directly to adversaries rather than relying solely on intermediaries or filtered reports.
  • Robert Barnes and Alexander Mercouris stress Driscoll's direct engagement with Russian contacts as crucial to any realistic deal.
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