The Bulwark Podcast S2 Ep1019: David Frum: It's Too Late to Stop the Pain
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Apr 11, 2025 
David Frum, a staff writer at The Atlantic and host of The David Frum Show, unpacks the chaos of Trump-era policies. He discusses the looming impact of trade embargoes on U.S. retail and the absurdity of tariffs, which could escalate smuggling. Frum warns about the long-term fallout from Trump's actions, predicting that future presidents will still be grappling with the consequences. He also touches on the erosion of Canadian-American relations and emphasizes the importance of globalism for peace and prosperity.
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Trump's Need for a Scapegoat
- Trump's economic strategy is failing, causing a need for a scapegoat.
- He'll likely target Jerome Powell, the Federal Reserve chair, to deflect blame.
The Insanity of Trump's Tariffs
- Trump's tariffs demonstrate a misunderstanding of supply chains.
- Bringing manufacturing back to the US is complex and involves many factors.
Supply Chains and Global Cooperation
- Supply chains represent global cooperation and efficiency, not just economic principles.
- They demonstrate the beauty of people working together across distances.