
Learning Unboxed 263. Designing with Kids, Not for Kids with Dave Hersh
Feb 17, 2025
In this conversation with Dave Hersh, CEO of InTandem, he discusses the revolutionary concept of designing with youth rather than for them. Dave explains how bridging the gap between industries and young voices enhances product development. He highlights the barriers that often hinder youth participation and shares strategies to overcome them. Listeners will learn about the transformative impact this collaboration has on fostering agency and belonging in young people, ultimately reshaping educational tools and career pathways.
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Youth Engagement Enhances Design
- Solutions work better when users participate in their design.
- Young people are excluded from designing systems that profoundly affect them, causing inefficacy.
Remove Friction to Engage Youth
- Remove logistical, regulatory, and cultural friction to engage young people effectively.
- Handling consent, privacy, and scheduling enables authentic youth participation.
Youth Agency Transforms Engagement
- Youth want agency and authentic involvement, not transactional education.
- Adult fears about losing control are emotional frictions that must be addressed.




