

Conquerors and Liberators: War Leaders Who Shaped Our World
Dec 6, 2019
Historian Andrew Roberts, known for his insights on wartime leadership, joins Jeremy Paxman to dissect what makes a great leader during conflict. They explore the moral complexities faced by figures like Churchill and Stalin, revealing that strong leadership can wear both good and evil masks. The conversation covers gender dynamics in military leadership and the emotional stakes of wartime decisions, such as those during the Falklands War. Roberts also reflects on the dangers of charismatic leaders clinging to power, using Thatcher and Churchill as cautionary tales.
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Napoleon's Morality
- Andrew Roberts defends Napoleon's actions at Jaffa.
- He argues that surrendering, then taking up arms again, justified death under 18th-century warfare rules.
Napoleon as the Standard
- Andrew Roberts believes Napoleon is the ultimate benchmark for war leaders.
- He cites Napoleon's ability to inspire troops, use topography, and outmaneuver opponents.
Churchill's Destiny
- Churchill's belief in destiny was crucial for Britain's WWII survival.
- His seemingly irrational faith provided strength during dark times when rational hope was scarce.