On this episode of IRL, Angie Martinez is joined by Janelle Monae to discuss her quest for joy, learning to trust your gut, and humbly letting go of past versions of yourself. She is leaving perfectionism behind and making art that honors exactly who she is, at this moment, a free-ass mutha fucka.

With a lot of fodder about Janelle’s current behavior and wardrobe choices, Janelle gets to the root of her choices to celebrate her, her body, and her decisions. She’s not into respectability politics and lets you know why.

Janelle is showing up for herself, breaking the chains of respectability politics, and on an empowering journey toward personal liberation.

Tune in and discover the true meaning of freedom with Janelle Monae here on The IRL Podcast - where real-life stories unfold.

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