Fresh from a beach vacation, Brett invites Jonathan for a conversation on PTO policies at The Juice. They discuss cabin fever coming out quarantine, unexpected drawbacks of unlimited PTO, wellbeing and mental health, and the shift in office culture.

0:00 Intro
1:18 Interview with Jonathan
4:05 Traditional PTO VS unlimited PTO
8:12 Pros and cons of working from home
12:20 The Juice’s PTO policy
14:50 It’s personal
17:50 Jonathan’s work schedule and ritual
19:56 Dysfunctional old office culture
24:10 Outro

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