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#290 - Germs Are Not Our Enemy w/ Marizelle Arce

Oct 30, 2025
Marizelle Arce, N.D., a naturopathic terrain doctor and author, challenges the conventional germ theory. She discusses the concept of microzymas—tiny precursory life forms—and pleomorphism, offering a new perspective on health. Arce explains how microbial environments in our bodies contribute to wellness, emphasizing nutrition and detoxification. She critiques traditional diagnostic methods like PCR and explains the role of fungal isopathics in healing. The conversation unveils a paradigm shift that redefines our relationship with germs.
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ANECDOTE

From EMT To Terrain-Focused Naturopath

  • Marizelle spent a year working as an EMT before medical training and later switched from conventional med school to naturopathy.
  • That early emergency experience influenced her integrative, terrain-focused practice.
INSIGHT

Microzymas Precede Cells And Pathogens

  • Microzymas are precursory living units that pleomorph into bacteria, fungi, and cells as the body's terrain changes.
  • Marizelle Arce argues these microzymas act like stem cells and regulate cellular formation rather than being external invaders.
INSIGHT

Rife Observed Pleomorphism Not Simple Destruction

  • Royal Rife's microscope let him watch microzymas pleomorph and apparently revert between forms with tiny environmental shifts.
  • Rife's frequency work likely changed form or scale of microzymas rather than 'killing' external viruses as commonly described.
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