The Charlie Kirk Show Why Everyone Is Fleeing California ft. Lee Zeldin
Jan 14, 2026
U.S. Senator Markwayne Mullin discusses Oklahoma's low gas prices and critiques California's taxing policies that drive wealth flight. He contrasts the governance of red and blue states while touching on his Cherokee heritage. EPA Administrator Lee Zeldin responds to media criticisms, emphasizing the positive impacts of deregulation on energy prices. He highlights the differences in energy policy between states and outlines how federal actions have benefited Americans by driving investments and lowering costs.
AI Snips
Chapters
Transcript
Episode notes
Red Vs. Blue Economic Divergence
- Red states and blue states are diverging economically, driven largely by energy and regulatory policies.
- Markwayne Mullin and Charlie Kirk point to lower energy and construction costs as central to red-state growth.
RV Rehab Stay And Tax Fight
- Markwayne Mullin lived in an RV for 18 months while his son received specialized brain rehab in Bakersfield, California.
- California attempted to tax him until he provided medical notes proving the stays were temporary.
Personal Friction Shapes Court Views
- Personal clashes can shape political views of judges; Mullin describes a negative encounter with Justice Gorsuch.
- He uses that experience to argue for Supreme Court term limits and criticizes Gorsuch's temperament.