
Always Better than Yesterday with Ryan Hartley | A Podcast for Heart Centred Leaders Ep 317 Interview Sessions with Seth Pepper | Flow State Under Pressure: How the Greats Perform When It Matters Most
In this episode, I welcome back Seth Pepper to the Always Better Than Yesterday podcast.
Seth Pepper is a high-performance coach who works with elite athletes, coaches, and leaders to help them access flow state under pressure. A former world champion swimmer who came within a single stroke of making the Olympic team, Seth now works behind the scenes with world-class performers across multiple sports and world's leading organisations— supporting them to perform with presence, purpose, and freedom when it matters most.
In this conversation, we explore:
• Why love, not trophies or validation, is the common thread of the greats
• The paradox of mastery: deep learning paired with being okay with not knowing
• Seth’s three core elements of flow: ability, acceptance of unpredictability, and caring
• Why pressure isn’t the enemy — pressure is proof you care
• The difference between being the prince (seeking validation) and the king (taking responsibility)
• How purpose unlocks performance beyond ego and outcome-dependence
• Competition through a higher lens: team-first, purpose-first performance
• Why “winning is unsatisfying” without meaning
• Parenting and coaching young athletes without stealing their inner feedback loop
• How returning to joy — being “10 years old again” — can change everything
• The question that reframes performance entirely:
“If you couldn’t lose… what would that look like?”
Those with ears, let them hear.
Always love,
Ryan
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