If Caleb Hammer hosted a show for CIOs, this would be the episode. 💥

Kat and Pete sit down to deliver the roast every IT leader needs - unpacking how technical debt quietly drains innovation, creates risk exposure, and costs you 27% interest on every “quick fix”.

In this episode:
🚨 Why tech debt isn’t an IT issue - it’s an organizational problem
💸 The real cost of duplicate platforms, workarounds, and “Jimmy’s app”
🧱 How to renovate your tech foundations without stopping innovation
🤖 Why ignoring integration points will haunt your AI strategy
🧭 Practical steps to measure, manage, and reduce tech debt for good If your IT architecture looks like a house with rotting walls - this is your sign to call an intervention.

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