

Part 1: How the Epstein conspiracy turned MAGA against Trump
Jul 20, 2025
Join Nick Robins-Early, a tech and power reporter for The Guardian, as he dives into the volatile intersection between Donald Trump and the Epstein conspiracy. They explore how Trump's dismissive stance on the Epstein files is fracturing the loyalty of his MAGA supporters. The discussion highlights the initial hopes within the movement for transparency, which have turned into frustration as Trump labels further inquiries as a hoax. Robins-Early sheds light on the tension among conservatives and the evolving dynamics of Trump's grip on power.
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Trump's Epstein Conspiracy Appeal
- Donald Trump fueled Epstein conspiracy theories as a major campaign promise to his MAGA supporters.
- His base saw uncovering Epstein's client list as crucial truth suppressed by Democrats.
Epstein Files' Symbolic Power
- Epstein files mean different things; legally they are investigation files, but many want a secret client list.
- The client list symbolizes exposure of powerful people linked to Epstein's crimes.
Epstein Files Investigation Disappointment
- The Trump Justice Department investigated and promised to release Epstein files but provided only already public information.
- The investigation concluded with no client list found, causing growing distrust among MAGA followers.