This is the first episode of Nilay Patel's new podcast Decoder, an interview show that will put a spotlight on how innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology are navigating an ever-changing landscape.

On the first episode of Decoder, Nilay interviews Mark Cuban. Mark is the owner of the Dallas Mavericks, he’s a tech investor, and is on the hit show, Shark Tank. The conversation, recorded as last week’s election results rolled in, covers how interwoven business, technology, and policy are, whether its 5G, or the NBA bubble, or AI, or his investments into healthcare -- if you want to understand the landscape of the future, you have to understand tech, you have to understand business, and you have to understand policy.

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Molly Sarlé