Autistic Empathy and the Double Empathy Problem

Aug 1, 2024

This discussion turns traditional views of empathy upside down, challenging the stereotype that autistic people lack it. The double empathy problem is introduced, revealing how miscommunication arises between neurotypicals and autistic individuals. The conversation dives into the complexities of empathy in autism research and the historical misperceptions that have shaped societal views. By highlighting how autistic individuals may demonstrate unique forms of empathy, the podcast invites listeners to rethink their understanding of emotional connections.

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Empathy's Definition Confusion

Empathy lacks a clear definition, with experts using over 30 different understandings.
This ambiguity deeply affects autism research about empathy.

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Two Sides of Empathy

Emotional empathy is a fast, unconscious response, while cognitive empathy is slower and more rational.
Some think autistics have high emotional but low cognitive empathy, highlighting definitional issues.

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Baron Cohen's Empathy Deficit Myth

Simon Baron Cohen popularized autism as an empathy disorder, fueling a damaging stereotype.
This framing positions autistic people as less human, perpetuating stigma.

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Many think that autistic people lack empathy, but do they? Even if you think you know the answer, you'll find new content about empathy and relating to others in this episode.

Join me as I explore empathy in the context of autism research and the origins of the autistic empathy deficit idea. In this episode, I cover the double empathy problem with help from a friend. How does the double empathy problem explain misunderstandings and communication breakdowns between autistic individuals and neurotypicals?

I also talk about how I personally think of empathy (and how my notions of empathy are surprisingly close to the very first usage of the word!).

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If you'd like to know more about topics discussed in this episode, check out:

"A Reflective Guide on the Meaning of Empathy in Autism Research" by Caroline Bollen

"Autism and Empathy: What Are the Real Links?" by Sue Fletcher-Watson and Geoffrey Bird

"Autism in an Age of Empathy: A Cautionary Critique" by Patrick McDonagh (chapter in Worlds of Autism edited by Joyce Davidson and Michael Orsini)

"On the Ontological Status of Autism: The 'Double Empathy Problem'" by Damian Milton

"The 'Double Empathy Problem': Ten Years On" by Damian Milton et al.

"Object Personification in Autism: This Paper Will Be Very Sad if You Don't Read it" by Rebekah White and Anna Remington

"A Dual Route Model of Empathy: A Neurobiological Perspective" by Chi-Lin Yu and Tai-Li Chou

Theme music: "Everything Feels New" by Evgeny Bardyuzha.

All episodes written and produced by Kristen Hovet.

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