Agreement and Divergence: 1689 Federalism and Progressive Covenantalism with Daniel Scheiderer (S2E11)
Mar 11, 2024
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Exploring the differences between 1689 federalism and progressive covenantalism with Dr. Daniel Scheiderer. They discuss theological method, historical covenants, similarities, differences, and key readings. Delve into Baptist covenant theologies and understandings of covenant works. Emphasize the importance of theological alignment in church membership and leadership roles.
The Covenant of Redemption serves as a foundational agreement between the Father and the Son for the redemption of the elect in both 1689 Federalism and Progressive Covenantalism.
Interpretations of the Covenant of Works differ, with 1689 Federalists viewing it as made in the garden while Progressive Covenantalists sometimes place it at the creation of man, intertwining creation and covenant uniquely.
While 1689 Federalism emphasizes the Covenant of Grace as God's one-sided offer of salvation, Progressive Covenantalism prefers 'God's one plan of redemption' to highlight the progression and distinctiveness of redemptive history.
Deep dives
Understanding of the Covenant of Redemption
Both 1689 Federalism and Progressive Covenantalism agree on the Covenant of Redemption, which is the agreement between the Father and the Son for the redemption of the elect. This agreement is foundational for both theological frameworks and is integral to their doctrinal foundations.
Interpretation of the Covenant of Works
While 1689 Federalists see the Covenant of Works as made in the garden when Adam represented all his posterity and broke the covenant leading to the sin nature of all humanity, Progressive Covenantalists sometimes view it as existing at the creation of man itself, intertwining creation and covenant in a unique manner.
Perspectives on the Covenant of Grace
1689 Federalism views the Covenant of Grace as God freely offering salvation through faith in Jesus Christ, emphasizing a one-sided covenant where God provides salvation. On the other hand, Progressive Covenantalists prefer the term 'God's one plan of redemption' over Covenant of Grace to avoid flattening the distinctions between the Old and New Testament, focusing on highlighting the progression and distinctiveness of redemptive history.
Insight on Covenant of Grace and New Covenant
Preserving the biblical teaching of the Covenant of Grace and the New Covenant, the podcast delves into how our triune God's eternal plan for redemption in Christ is progressively revealed through covenants until its fulfillment. It emphasizes that each covenant, including God's promise in Genesis 3:15, predicts the redemption through Christ and the ultimate foundation of our justification. Despite differences in terminology, the Covenant of Grace is highlighted for its significance in revealing God's plan.
Unity and Diversity in Covenant Theology
Discussions on the compatibility of differing Baptist covenant theologies underscore the unity and diversity within the Church. Emphasizing shared values in theology, such as beliefs in scripture, creation, and salvation, the episode points out notable agreements between the theological perspectives. It also highlights key distinctions, particularly regarding the law, where differences in theological approach and interpretation arise.
In this episode, Caleb is joined by Daniel Scheiderer (PhD, The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary) Senior Pastor at Grace Baptist Church in Chambersburg, PA to compare Baptist covenant theologies: 1689 Federalism and Progressive Covenantalism from a 1689 Federalist perspective. Together they discuss questions about theological method, how each system understands the theological and historical covenants, what similarities and differences there are between these two systems, and more.
Resources:
Comparing Baptist Covenant Theologies by Richard Lucas https://equip.sbts.edu/publications/the-past-and-future-of-baptist-covenantal-theology-comparing-1689-federalism-and-progressive-covenantalism/
Christ Over All (Long and short form journal articles overviewing PC) https://christoverall.com/theme/a-primer-on-progressive-covenantalism/
Kingdom through Covenant: A Biblical-Theological Understanding of the Covenants by Stephen Wellum and Peter Gentry https://a.co/d/2fH7oHt
Progressive Covenantalism: Charting a Course between Dispensational and Covenantal Theologies https://a.co/d/9EQIqTr
Covenantal and Dispensational Theologies: Four Views on the Continuity of Scripture edited by Brent Parker and Richard Lucas Covenantal and Dispensational Theologies: Four Views on the Continuity of Scripture
40 Questions About Biblical Theology by Jason DeRouchie, Oren Martin, and Andy Naselli https://a.co/d/aEz0HIS
Covenant Theology: From Adam to Christ by Nehemiah Coxe https://a.co/d/11VEmhK
The Mystery of Christ, His Covenant, and His Kingdom by Samuel Renihan https://a.co/d/apIdFdD
The Distinctiveness of Baptist Covenant Theology by Pascal Denault https://a.co/d/bgnLIAH
1689 Federalism.com https://www.1689federalism.com/
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