FHC #147: Game theory and healthcare—the complex relationship between doctors, payers and patients

Sep 11, 2024

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Jonathan Fisher

Guest

Jeremy Corr

Guest

Robert Pearl

In this engaging discussion, Dr. Jonathan Fisher, a dedicated cardiologist and advocate for physician well-being, teams up with Dr. Robert Pearl, a prominent healthcare leader and author, alongside Jeremy Corr, CEO of Executive Podcast Solutions, who provides the patient’s perspective. They delve into the application of Game Theory in healthcare, revealing how it can transform adversarial relationships between doctors and insurers into collaborative efforts. The trio also examines the balance of physician autonomy and teamwork, advocating for a shift from competition to cooperation for better patient outcomes.

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Intro

00:00 • 3min

Navigating Healthcare's Game Theory

02:31 • 8min

Exploring Game Theory in Healthcare Decision-Making

10:26 • 5min

Navigating Conflicts in Healthcare

15:30 • 10min

Negotiation Dynamics in Healthcare

25:34 • 22min

Harnessing Generative AI for Improved Healthcare Communication and Decision-Making

47:50 • 3min

This Unfiltered episode of Fixing Healthcare features Dr. Jonathan Fisher, a respected cardiologist and advocate for physician well-being, and Dr. Robert Pearl, healthcare leader and author of ChatGPT, MD. Jeremy Corr, CEO of Executive Podcast Solutions, adds the patient’s perspective, as always.

In this episode, the trio takes a deep dive into the intriguing applications of Game Theory in healthcare. Dr. Pearl introduces Game Theory—a concept that analyzes how individuals or groups make decisions in competitive situations—drawing from its use in business to better understand interactions between physicians, insurers and healthcare organizations.

Today’s topics include:

Game theory and healthcare economics: Dr. Pearl explains how Game Theory can help reframe the often adversarial relationships between doctors and insurers, exploring ways to move from lose-lose situations to more collaborative, win-win outcomes.
The role of autonomy: Dr. Fisher explores the inherent conflict between physician autonomy and collective decision-making, noting how the fragmented nature of healthcare impacts both patient outcomes and physician satisfaction.
Collaboration vs. competition: The group discusses the need for healthcare professionals to shift from tribalism and competition within and between specialties to a more cooperative approach that benefits patients.
The prisoner’s dilemma: Dr. Pearl introduces this classic Game Theory scenario to illustrate the difficult choices doctors face when limited healthcare resources force tough decisions about patient care.

To discover more, press play and check out these helpful links:

New book: ‘Just One Heart’ (Jonathan Fisher)

New book: ‘ChatGPT, MD’ (Robert Pearl)

Monthly Musings on American Healthcare (RobertPearlMD.com)

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