Former CIA officer and founding member of To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences, Jimmy Semivan, joins Dreamland for a rich discussion covering Jim's work in To The Stars and the CIA, Whitley's description of Roswell crash bodies, Jim's personal experiences with close encounters and spirituality, and the importance of balance between inner and outer lives.
The phenomenon may be a higher intelligence that is mysterious and potentially deceptive.
Consciousness plays a significant role in the phenomenon, involving a different form of consciousness.
The phenomenon has the ability to manipulate and deceive individuals, altering their perceptions and beliefs.
Deep dives
The nature of the phenomenon
The podcast episode explores the nature of the phenomenon, suggesting that it may be a higher intelligence that is controlling a larger enterprise. It is described as something mysterious and potentially deceptive, playing games and lying to humans. The guest believes that we are a small part of a vast reality that we cannot fully comprehend, and that we are dealing with something that is beyond our current understanding.
The role of consciousness
The podcast discusses the idea that consciousness plays a significant role in the phenomenon. The guest refers to DNA having a level of consciousness and proposes that the phenomenon may involve a different form of consciousness that is not fully understood. The relationship between our consciousness and the consciousness behind the phenomenon is described as complex, with both communal and individual aspects.
The influence and manipulation
The podcast touches on the influence and manipulation experienced by individuals who come into contact with the phenomenon. It is described as being able to alter perceptions and cause individuals to believe they have seen things that may not have been real. The guest highlights instances of misinformation and deceptive tactics used by the phenomenon, comparing it to folklore and trickster figures in cultural history.
The challenge of understanding
The podcast acknowledges the difficulty in fully understanding the phenomenon and its intentions. The guest suggests that our limited human perspective and cognitive abilities prevent us from grasping the full extent of the phenomenon's nature. It is emphasized that more research, observation, and exploration are needed to unravel the mysteries surrounding the phenomenon.
The personal experience and impact
The podcast briefly mentions the personal experiences of the guest and their wife, highlighting the physical effects and documentation they have regarding their encounters. It emphasizes that the contact experiences can be both challenging and traumatic for individuals and points out that some people do not have positive experiences. The importance of supporting and understanding those who have contact experiences is acknowledged.
Jim Semivan, who is an Unknowncountry subscriber, was a CIA officer for 25 years, and is a founding member of To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences (TTSA), which recently rebranded as ‘To The Stars, Inc.’. Now retired from the CIA, Jim still serves as a consultant to the Intelligence Community.
He joins us on Dreamland to offer a valuable insight into the role of government and independent organizations in investigating the close encounter experience.
In this rich discussion, Whitley and Jim cover a wide range of highly relevant and fascinating topics, from Jim’s work in To The Stars, Inc. and the CIA, to Whitley’s stunning description of the mysterious bodies recovered from the Roswell crash of 1947.
Then, they go even deeper into a conversation about Jim’s own experiences with the close encounter phenomenon and spirituality, and the importance of maintaining a balance between our inner and outer lives.