

133 Creating Categories, Movements, & Startups with Sangram Vajre, WSJ Bestselling Author of MOVE
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Cover Quote As Conversation Starter
- Sangram explains why he put Christopher Lockhead's negative quote on MOVE's cover to spark honest discourse.
- He wanted to show disagreement can coexist with respect and start conversations.
Build Community First
- Build a community before you perfect your product because community provides the float to iterate.
- Engage your community in creation and credit contributors to create ownership and advocacy.
Forced Evangelism By Circumstance
- Sangram became Terminus evangelist out of necessity when cofounders were product-focused.
- His wife's ultimatum ("you got one year") forced him to hustle and create early traction.
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Introduction
00:00 • 2min
What Makes Legendary Marketing Legendary?
01:53 • 2min
I Love the Guys, but I Hate the Book
03:43 • 2min
Play Bigger Is for You
05:31 • 2min
The Marketing of the Move Marketing
07:20 • 3min
How Many People Did You Enrole in the Creation of Your Book?
10:39 • 2min
Are You a Part of Something?
12:40 • 2min
Are You a Tech Evangelist?
14:14 • 3min
Evangelists Are Human Beings
16:54 • 3min
You've Got One Ear, You're Not Going to Find a Real Job
19:53 • 3min
Creating Forcing Functions in Your Life, Your Business
22:47 • 2min
Quota by Spouse
24:54 • 4min
The Carrot of Sales Club
28:45 • 2min
A B M Category, You Know, It's Now an Industry Conference
30:48 • 4min
How to Build a Category Dominating Company
34:23 • 5min
I'm a Middle Schooler, or Maybe Aten Anger?
38:58 • 3min
Do You Listen to the Three Wrong Customers?
41:42 • 6min
Then I'm Going to Build a Day to Fly Weel
47:40 • 3min
What's the Magic of Account Base Marketing?
50:54 • 5min
Flipping My Funnel
55:49 • 4min
Flip My Funnel
59:51 • 3min
Isn't Failure a Legendary Teacher?
01:02:30 • 2min
The Greatest Song in Marketing History
01:04:13 • 2min
What Does It Cost to Build a Category on Industry Conference?
01:05:46 • 2min
Are You Evangelistic About Category Creation?
01:07:53 • 4min
The Unspoken Is Louder Than the Said
01:11:47 • 5min
Product Led Growth Is the Biggest Miss Nomer
01:16:17 • 3min
How to Scale a Business Over Time
01:18:49 • 4min
A New Way of Thinking About Your News Letter
01:22:56 • 2min
How Long Is Your Business News Letter?
01:24:56 • 3min
The Power of Frameworks
01:28:17 • 5min
The Flipmaphinal Work
01:33:00 • 2min
The Difference Between Missionaries and Mercenaries
01:35:24 • 2min
A Ramadan Is Coming Back!
01:37:16 • 3min
On this episode of Lochhead on Marketing, we go on a deep dive into category design, community building, to starting a company and becoming a category leader with Sangram Vajre.
Sangram Vajre is the co-founder of Terminus. He is also the author of a WSJ bestselling book called MOVE: The 4-Question Go-To-Market Framework.
We touch on the different startup marketing topics, including how to avoid the SaaS Valley of Death. We also talk about how to build a scalable marketing and sales model. Most importantly, we talk about how to leverage your competition to build your category.
Welcome to Lochhead on Marketing, the number one charting marketing podcast for marketers, category designers, and entrepreneurs with a different mind.
Sangram Vajre on his Bestselling Book, MOVE
Sangram shares the one question that he always gets when he talks about his book. That is, why did he put THAT specific quote on the cover?
The particular quote was made by me, and it read: “Love the guys, but hate this book.”
Sangram explains that he has a good reason for putting it up right in front for everyone to see.
“I think you and I both know that everybody feels like they're walking on eggshells. They can't say anything. Everything has to has to be politically correct. Everything has to be in agreement.
I think people have forgotten a good way to discourse. That it's okay for two people to have completely different opinions. And that’s the point of being people. Otherwise, we’ll be animals eating each other.” – Sangram Vajre
Coming in from Another Angle
Sangram then explains that while his heart bleeds category design and creation, he believes that not every company should be a category creator. To him, there are some that are not destined to be category creators, and that is fine. They could still be a better company; they just have to approach it from a different angle.
That’s where his book, MOVE, comes to play.
“There are 99% of the companies out there in the world, who probably are following suit to become a better company. And this book is for them. If you want to build a category, go and read Play Bigger. But if you want to build a great high performing revenue team in your organization, I hope you'll take a look at my book.” – Sangram Vajre
Sangram Vajre on Engaging the Community to Create a Bestseller
Sangram talks about his process on making this bestseller of a book. He says that he has always believed that without a community, you’re just a commodity.
“I truly believe that every company needs to think about building a community before they think about the product they want to build. Because your community is what's going to give you the float that you need to get your business going.” – Sangram Vajre
So consult the community, he did. He would send out early parts of his book and asked people for their feedback. Those that gave him feedback, he made sure to acknowledge in his book. So when the book became a WSJ bestselling book, his community who gave their feedbacks are now part of it, which gave his community an even greater sense of belonging.
To hear more from Sangram Vajre and how to become a high-performing company in your market, download and listen to this episode.
Bio
Sangram Vajre is the co-founder and chief evangelist of Terminus. Before Terminus, Vajre led the marketing team at Pardot through its acquisition by ExactTarget and then Salesforce.
He is also the author of Account-Based Marketing For Dummies and is the mastermind behind #FlipMyFunnel.
Links
LinkedIn: in/SangramVajre
Twitter: @SangramVajre
Check out his book: MOVE: The 4-Question Go-To-Market Framework
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