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Sometime in early 2021 there was a bit of excitement on the Research Software Engineering Slack channel. It was all about a blog post called: "Research Software code is likely to remain a tangled mess". The author, Derek Jones, is quite critical of what we are doing with software in research. I accept that not everybody is a fan of Research Software Engineering and I reached out to Derek, who kindly agreed to talk to me for this episode.
In our discussion we touch on a number of subjects, from sustainability, best practices to testing.

Links:

http://shape-of-code.coding-guidelines.com/2021/02/21/research-software-code-is-likely-to-remain-a-tangled-mess/

Derek's book on Evidence Based Software Engineering

http://www.knosof.co.uk/ESEUR/

Leprechauns of Software Engineering (mentioned in the discussion)

https://leanpub.com/leprechauns

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