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1035: Legal Orders | The Secret Podcast

Nov 21, 2025
The hosts dive into Trump's alarming call for violence against Democratic senators, sparking a fiery discussion. They unpack the context of a new military rights video aimed at service members, reminding them about lawful orders. The narrative shifts as they dissect Trump's sudden push for releasing Epstein documents, revealing legal pressures he's facing. Partisanship in legal obedience is also explored, highlighting the divides in political accountability. Expect some light moments as they also tease a segment about Dick Cheney's funeral!
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INSIGHT

Trump's Public Call For Execution

  • Donald Trump publicly endorsed executing Democratic senators after they released a video advising service members they need not follow illegal orders.
  • Sarah Longwell and Jonathan V. Last treat this as a major escalation that reflects how normalized violent rhetoric has become.
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Why Dems Made The Military Video

  • Sarah played the Democratic ex-service members' video for Alyssa Slotkin on their Focus Group episode and discussed why they made it.
  • Slotkin said the video aimed to reassure service members they do not have to follow illegal orders and to encourage continued recruitment.
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Rule Of Law As A Partisan Faultline

  • The hosts argue the rule of law has become partisan, with one party signaling obedience to the leader over legal constraints.
  • Trump believes armed forces will follow him regardless, which frightens the hosts about potential domestic misuse of force.
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