If the first hundred days of a papacy can shake up the Catholic church, how much drama occurs over 80 years?

For journalist Philip Shenon, there has been a constant tension – how much should the church judge the modern world and how much mercy should it extend?

Philip’s the author of a sweeping new history of the church since World War II.

It’s called Jesus Wept – Seven Popes and the Battle for The Soul of the Catholic Church. It chronicles the triumphs, controversies, and politics of the popes before Leo.

GUEST

Philip Shenon, author and journalist

This program was first broadcast in August and was made on the lands of the Gadigal People.