VERITAS with Mel Hostalrich Judyth Vary Baker, Ph.D. | Me & Lee: How I Came to Know, Love and Lose Lee Harvey Oswald | Part 1 of 2
May 2, 2014
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In the spring of 1963, Judyth Vary Baker was invited to New Orleans by Dr. Alton Ochsner, which led to what many believe, based on her documentation and witness statements, to involvement, after nearly two years of training at Roswell Park Institute and the University of Florida, in a biological warfare project aimed to eliminate Cuba's Fidel Castro, in New Orleans.It is not clear to what extent the CIA may have been involved, but author Edward T. Haslam has linked a linear particle accelerator that Baker said was involved in the project to Drs. Ochsner and Sherman, through a detailed study of Dr. Sherman's brutal and unsolved murder on July 21, 1964, the day the Warren Commission came to New Orleans to solicit testimonies. Baker has further stated that in New Orleans, while working with Dr. Mary S. Sherman and Ochsner, in association with David Ferrie and others, she met and fell in love with Lee Harvey Oswald, the accused assassin of President John F. Kennedy. She has produced witnesses corroborating her claim. She says that Oswald was framed for Kennedy's murder. She joins former Secret Service agent Abraham Bolden in confirming that Oswald was the informant named "Lee" who saved Kennedy's life in Chicago three weeks prior to the assassination.
In 2003, Baker was filmed saying Oswald called the operation to kill Kennedy "The Big Event," several years prior to CIA's E. Howard Hunt identifying the CIA operation to kill Kennedy by the same name. For a number of such reasons, Baker's claims are being more widely supported than when she first spoke out, except by those defending the Warren Commission's conclusions, which Baker calls "An obsolete failure and an odious obstruction of justice for Kennedy and Oswald."
Baker was ejected from the project to kill Castro, she said, because of her ethical objections to use one of more volunteers to test the material. "They wouldn't have volunteered to be tested for something that would kill them," she states. Baker says she was forced to return to Florida, where she was placed in a high-end chemistry laboratory, Peninsular ChemResearch, to hide her being "blackballed" from cancer research. She was then forced to leave the field altogether. Bitter over being banned from cancer research, she was devastated when she saw Oswald shot on TV. Baker says he was part of an "abort team" that he described to her only 37 ½ hours before the Kennedy assassination. When Baker told researcher Jim Marrs about the "abort team" in late 1999 or early 2000, at this time only a handful of insiders knew of its existence.
In 2000 Baker was nearly filmed three times by Sixty Minutes in a 14-month investigation that Sixty Minutes' founder, Don Hewitt, said was the most expensive investigation in the history of the program up to that time. He stated to C-Span that "the door was slammed in our faces." But then Gerry Hemming, a legendary name in Kennedy assassination research, met Baker, examined her notebooks of evidence, and told British documentary maker Nigel Turner about her. Baker was interviewed, she says, for "many hours," and then filmed by Turner for 38 hours, culminating in a 44-minute film, "The Love Affair." Baker objected to the fact that none of her witnesses were removed or not included in the documentary. Nevertheless, by November, 2003,Turner had nine documentaries {collectively called The Men Who Killed Kennedy], being aired on The History Channel. While six had been running for years, the three new segments, especially "The Guilty Men" (Episode 9] quickly generated lawsuit threats from former President Lyndon Johnson's widow, family and closest supporters. Segments 7-8-9 were quickly banned, including "The Love Affair" concerning Baker's love affair with Lee Harvey Oswald and his innocence, as The History Channel apologized to the Johnsons. Over the next few years, all of the other segments of The Men Who Killed Kennedy which had been showing over a decade on the History Channel, were also removed.
But Baker had written a 700 page book, which she withdrew after it was published by researcher Harrison E. Livingstone over disputes about editing and finances. In 2010 and 2011, her 508-page book Me & Lee: How I came to know, love and lose Lee Harvey Oswald was printed in paperback and hardback editions and became an underground high ranking book about the Kennedy assassination. In 2012m Me & Lee was adapted into a three act play ["The Sniper's Nest"] by noted playwright Lisa Soland. It has been produced in the United States and overseas. Many people met the reclusive Judyth Baker for the first time in a ten-week-long tour of the US during the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination, financed by numerous donations.
In 2014, Me & Lee was also produced as an audio book, and translations began in German, Farsi, Swedish and French. Baker's information has been quoted in books such as Jim Marrs' new edition of Crossfire, Phillip Nelson's LBJ: Mastermind, Jesse Ventura'a They Killed our President, and Dr. Mary's Monkey by Edward T. Haslam, which devotes significant chapters to her story.
Baker's book David Ferrie-Mafia Pilot will be released by Trine Day in summer, 2014.
Baker is also the author of two books of poetry (When the Clouds Came Flying By (for drama students) and A Dangerous Thing to Do; she was co-author of a three-act play, Castles in the Sky with John MacLean for the Texas regional LDS Sesquicentennial. Baker's name is on a monument erected for the US Bicentennial in Stafford, TX for her civic service as a newspaper reporter dedicated to the community. Baker's paintings and lithographs have long sold worldwide.
Baker was married to Robert A. Baker, III in Mobile, Alabama in 1963. She had five children between 1968-1978. Baker says she was warned not to speak of what she knew, if she wished to stay alive. She remained silent for 35 years. Baker decided not to speak out until her last child left home on Dec. 26, 1998. Since then, after initial doubt and attacks on her character by Warren Commission defenders, typified, Baker says, by a large website written by people who never met her, Baker has continued to gain support. However, she was hospitalized five times in four years by "accidents" that finally forced Baker to live overseas permanently by 2007. By the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination, hundreds of supported donated funds to finance a ten-week tour of the United States, beginning with a symposium at Loyola University and ending at the grave of Lee Harvey Oswald, where a Memorial Service was held. Today, Baker lives in four different countries overseas. "I do regret that I haven't been able to be a grandma and great grandma," she says. "Some of my family has not forgiven me for speaking out." Baker is currently working on three more books" one about Lee Harvey Oswald's writings, one about her close friend, Lt. Col. Dan Marvin, a green Beret who worked as an assassin for the CIA, and a third book about economics and linguistics ("My real avocation is in linguistics," Baker says).Baker can be contacted on Facebook at "Judyth Baker" or by contacting Trine Day Publishers. See evidence files, and also, how to get a book at meandlee.com, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or Trine Day.
Bonus: <a href="https://veritasradio.com/guests/2014/05may/VS-140501-jbaker-s3-SUB.php">Part 3</a>
In 2003, Baker was filmed saying Oswald called the operation to kill Kennedy "The Big Event," several years prior to CIA's E. Howard Hunt identifying the CIA operation to kill Kennedy by the same name. For a number of such reasons, Baker's claims are being more widely supported than when she first spoke out, except by those defending the Warren Commission's conclusions, which Baker calls "An obsolete failure and an odious obstruction of justice for Kennedy and Oswald."
Baker was ejected from the project to kill Castro, she said, because of her ethical objections to use one of more volunteers to test the material. "They wouldn't have volunteered to be tested for something that would kill them," she states. Baker says she was forced to return to Florida, where she was placed in a high-end chemistry laboratory, Peninsular ChemResearch, to hide her being "blackballed" from cancer research. She was then forced to leave the field altogether. Bitter over being banned from cancer research, she was devastated when she saw Oswald shot on TV. Baker says he was part of an "abort team" that he described to her only 37 ½ hours before the Kennedy assassination. When Baker told researcher Jim Marrs about the "abort team" in late 1999 or early 2000, at this time only a handful of insiders knew of its existence.
In 2000 Baker was nearly filmed three times by Sixty Minutes in a 14-month investigation that Sixty Minutes' founder, Don Hewitt, said was the most expensive investigation in the history of the program up to that time. He stated to C-Span that "the door was slammed in our faces." But then Gerry Hemming, a legendary name in Kennedy assassination research, met Baker, examined her notebooks of evidence, and told British documentary maker Nigel Turner about her. Baker was interviewed, she says, for "many hours," and then filmed by Turner for 38 hours, culminating in a 44-minute film, "The Love Affair." Baker objected to the fact that none of her witnesses were removed or not included in the documentary. Nevertheless, by November, 2003,Turner had nine documentaries {collectively called The Men Who Killed Kennedy], being aired on The History Channel. While six had been running for years, the three new segments, especially "The Guilty Men" (Episode 9] quickly generated lawsuit threats from former President Lyndon Johnson's widow, family and closest supporters. Segments 7-8-9 were quickly banned, including "The Love Affair" concerning Baker's love affair with Lee Harvey Oswald and his innocence, as The History Channel apologized to the Johnsons. Over the next few years, all of the other segments of The Men Who Killed Kennedy which had been showing over a decade on the History Channel, were also removed.
But Baker had written a 700 page book, which she withdrew after it was published by researcher Harrison E. Livingstone over disputes about editing and finances. In 2010 and 2011, her 508-page book Me & Lee: How I came to know, love and lose Lee Harvey Oswald was printed in paperback and hardback editions and became an underground high ranking book about the Kennedy assassination. In 2012m Me & Lee was adapted into a three act play ["The Sniper's Nest"] by noted playwright Lisa Soland. It has been produced in the United States and overseas. Many people met the reclusive Judyth Baker for the first time in a ten-week-long tour of the US during the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination, financed by numerous donations.
In 2014, Me & Lee was also produced as an audio book, and translations began in German, Farsi, Swedish and French. Baker's information has been quoted in books such as Jim Marrs' new edition of Crossfire, Phillip Nelson's LBJ: Mastermind, Jesse Ventura'a They Killed our President, and Dr. Mary's Monkey by Edward T. Haslam, which devotes significant chapters to her story.
Baker's book David Ferrie-Mafia Pilot will be released by Trine Day in summer, 2014.
Baker is also the author of two books of poetry (When the Clouds Came Flying By (for drama students) and A Dangerous Thing to Do; she was co-author of a three-act play, Castles in the Sky with John MacLean for the Texas regional LDS Sesquicentennial. Baker's name is on a monument erected for the US Bicentennial in Stafford, TX for her civic service as a newspaper reporter dedicated to the community. Baker's paintings and lithographs have long sold worldwide.
Baker was married to Robert A. Baker, III in Mobile, Alabama in 1963. She had five children between 1968-1978. Baker says she was warned not to speak of what she knew, if she wished to stay alive. She remained silent for 35 years. Baker decided not to speak out until her last child left home on Dec. 26, 1998. Since then, after initial doubt and attacks on her character by Warren Commission defenders, typified, Baker says, by a large website written by people who never met her, Baker has continued to gain support. However, she was hospitalized five times in four years by "accidents" that finally forced Baker to live overseas permanently by 2007. By the 50th anniversary of the Kennedy assassination, hundreds of supported donated funds to finance a ten-week tour of the United States, beginning with a symposium at Loyola University and ending at the grave of Lee Harvey Oswald, where a Memorial Service was held. Today, Baker lives in four different countries overseas. "I do regret that I haven't been able to be a grandma and great grandma," she says. "Some of my family has not forgiven me for speaking out." Baker is currently working on three more books" one about Lee Harvey Oswald's writings, one about her close friend, Lt. Col. Dan Marvin, a green Beret who worked as an assassin for the CIA, and a third book about economics and linguistics ("My real avocation is in linguistics," Baker says).Baker can be contacted on Facebook at "Judyth Baker" or by contacting Trine Day Publishers. See evidence files, and also, how to get a book at meandlee.com, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, or Trine Day.
Bonus: <a href="https://veritasradio.com/guests/2014/05may/VS-140501-jbaker-s3-SUB.php">Part 3</a>