Callum Williams, a Senior economics writer at The Economist and an expert in inflation, delves into the complexities of inflation management. He discusses the conflicting views between market optimism and central bankers' caution, emphasizing how persistent inflation pressures make forecasting challenging. The conversation also touches on the plight of Ukrainian refugees adjusting to life in Europe, highlighting integration difficulties. Lastly, they explore how technology is reshaping the traditional winter pastime of ice fishing in Minnesota.