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Sep 8, 2025 
Ben Shapiro, a prominent political commentator and author, dives into his new book, *Scavengers and Lions*. He discusses the rise of 'intellectual scavengers' feeding on societal grievance versus 'lions' who advocate for responsibility and moral clarity. The conversation shifts to pressing issues like Trump, gun control, and the impact of wokeness on culture. Shapiro also critiques perceptions surrounding foreign aid, identity, and societal norms, urging listeners to reflect on the values shaping American society.
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Builders Versus Scavengers
- Ben Shapiro argues modern society splits into builders who strengthen institutions and scavengers who seek to tear them down out of envy.
- He traces his concern to violent anti-Western protests he witnessed in Oxford after October 7, 2023.
Oxford Trip That Sparked The Book
- Ben recounts being advised not to stay in London after October 7 attacks and encountering hostile protesters at Oxford.
- The experience sparked his question: 'What has gone wrong?'
Grievance Masks Deeper Targets
- Shapiro says many protesters misframe Gaza as uniquely evil while actually protesting Western civilization itself.
- He views the oppressor/oppressed binary as a driving myth that justifies tearing institutions down.
