
The Mark Driscoll Podcast Learn How a Real Leader Treats Others Around Him
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Nov 16, 2025 Real leaders excel by how they treat others. Learn the importance of boundaries with different types of people: the wise, the foolish, and the evil. Discover practical steps to identify and manage these relationships, from setting firm boundaries to understanding the traits of wise individuals. Highlights include the necessity of mentorship and the impact of close relationships on your family. Ultimately, cultivating wisdom is key to navigating personal interactions and growth.
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Friendliness vs Deep Friendship
- You interact with hundreds to thousands of people yearly but can meaningfully invest in only a few relationships.
- Be friendly with all, but be friends with a few and prioritize your limited time, money, and energy.
Three Relationship Categories
- People fall into three moral categories: evil, foolish, and wise, and most are foolish in some area.
- Treat people according to character and conduct rather than pretending everyone deserves equal treatment.
Set Firm Boundaries With Dangerous People
- Establish firm boundaries with evil people and avoid personal, business, or family entanglement.
- Recognize when someone is beyond your help and direct them to cops, attorneys, or counselors.




