

Secrets of animal culture, the importance of beauty, and why humans devalue their own existence w/ Carl Safina (ep#23)
As I've mentioned in previous episodes, my experience with psychedelics and reading the incredible novel, The Overstory expanded & deepened my appreciation for the natural world. I see trees and forests differently than I once did, and it seems like every day, I find a reason to appreciate the animal world more than the day before. In this episode, I was honoured to speak with Carl Safina, who has spent his entire life studying, appreciating, and sharing the secrets of the natural world with the rest of us. I hope I assisted Carl in spreading his message even further. Carl Safina is an American ecologist and acclaimed non-fiction writer. His books focusing on the human relationship with the living world have won a MacArthur “genius” prize; Pew, Guggenheim, and National Science Foundation fellowships; book awards from the National Academies, the Lannan Foundation, and Orion Magazine; and the John Burroughs, James Beard, and George Rabb medals
Carl has written ten books in all, two of which have been New York Times Notable Books of the Year, including his most recent Becoming Wild, which explores animal cultures, how much wisdom and intelligence humans miss in animals and how we have a moral duty to preserve the natural world if we wish for any chance of preserving human dignity. Carl's recent book is truly beautiful and I highly recommend it: Becoming Wild: How Animal Cultures Raise Families, Create Beauty, and Achieve Peace
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