In this episode of Bulletproof Radio, my guest is Thomas Roberts, Ph.D., who’s devoted a nearly 50-year career to the study of psychedelics. Tom has developed “mind design” technologies and practices he calls mindapps.

Just like writing and installing apps in our electronic devices, we can construct “mindapps” and install them in our brain-mind complex, he says. And just like digital apps add capabilities to our devices, mindapps can expand our intellectual capacity and creative abilities.

Tom’s mindapps also offer benefits for artistic performance, mystical and spiritual experience, and scientific research by improving creativity, open-mindedness, problem solving, and inner-brain connections—the ultimate performance hacking!

“There are things we can install in our brain/mind complex that allow it to do new things and to do things more strongly,” Tom says. “I'm not saying that a mindapp is like artificial intelligence in electronical sense. I'm just taking that idea and transferring it over to things. Now, my favorite, of course, is psychedelics, but it includes brain stimulation, hypnosis, breathing techniques, biofeedback, chanting, yoga, hypnosis, on and on. All of these are mindapps that we can install and use our brain/mind complex in different ways.”

We’re intentionally redesigning our own minds, he explains, and lays it all out in his most recent book: Mindapps: Multistate Theory and Tools for Mind Design. We talk about mindapps and how they connect to consciousness and psychedelic science.

Tom is a professor emeritus of educational psychology at Northern Illinois University and a former visiting scientist at Johns Hopkins, He’s presented around the world on consciousness and psychedelic science. For 32 years, he taught Foundations of Psychedelic Studies, which was the world’s first university-cataloged psychedelic course.

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Roger Stone | 77 WABC Host | 10-02-25