Zibby is joined by author and grief advocate Marisa Renee Lee to talk about her debut memoir, Grief Is Love, which she wrote to help process her mother's death. Marisa shares what her life looked like before she worked through her grief, how her miscarriage helped her realize she hadn't fully recovered from the loss of her mom, and the number one kindness she hopes listeners will extend to those in their lives who may be grieving. The two also discuss how Marisa manages her mental health now and where this book fits into her bigger life plans.

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