This episode is a portion of a recent community guest speaker call with Chris Niebauer. Chris came back to the community to discuss what I love to talk about – imagination versus reality.

Chris talked about the complete made-up-ness of words. Words, especially ones like ownership and success, are massive abstractions that are not here in direct experience. What they point to is not even real in direct experience. When we look at our identification with these words and the suffering they can bring, it’s pretty amazing to see that they aren’t even real!

It was fun to share in Chris’ excitement for this topic and how aligned we are in this regard. Enjoy this conversation with Chris!

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