Last week Apple was ordered to pay up to £11bn in fines over a sweetheart tax deal with Ireland. But did they actually break the law? Who was at fault? And why should it matter to the rest of us? Natasha Adams, Tax Campaign Manager at ActionAid, joins Kirsty to explain. NEF on Twitter: www.twitter.com/nef Weekly Economics Podcast on Twitter: www.twitter.com/weeklyeconpod Kirsty Styles on Twitter: www.twitter.com/kirstystyles1 Natasha Adams on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tashahester Produced by James Shield. Programme editor for NEF: Huw Jordan. Music this week is by Nick Thorburn, Lyndon Scarfe and Podington Bear. Brought to you by the New Economics Foundation – the independent think tank and charity campaigning for a fairer, sustainable economy. Find out more at www.neweconomics.org.