The Two Matts The Two Matts Q&A: Is Nato dead? Is Marty Supreme any good? And should old people vote?
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Jan 11, 2026 The hosts tackle whether NATO is still a reliable alliance amidst US unpredictability and Trump-era influences. They engage in a thought-provoking debate about a potential upper voting age and generational fairness. The conversation touches on political shifts expected by 2026, while also reminiscing about a special edition for Brexit's 10th anniversary. They draw parallels between Trumpism and kleptocracy, assess Leila Cunningham's chances for mayor of London, and enthusiastically recommend Timothée Chalamet's film, Marty Supreme.
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NATO's Postwar Certainty Is Over
- NATO's cohesion has been severely undermined by the prospect of one member threatening another and by shifting US commitments under Trump.
- Matt d’Ancona warns this era may be a 'blank page' where old NATO assumptions no longer hold.
US Reliability Has Changed The Game
- The US under Trump signals it may no longer be the reliable backstop for European defence or collective action.
- That shift forces Europe to reassess defence arrangements and allies' expectations, Matt Kelly argues.
Don't Cut Votes By Age; Use Capacity Tests
- Avoid age-based blanket disenfranchisement; consider capacity-based precedents instead.
- Matt Kelly and Matt d’Ancona note legal precedents in Europe and urge generational realignment, not sweeping vote removal.