Civil Rights Attorney Ron Kuby on Flag Burning “This executive order means absolutely nothing” (G&R 417)

In 1989, and again 1990, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled flag burning a First Amendment protected action. In 2025, Trump has issued an executive order banning flag burning. Trump's executive order mean absolutely nothing. But, it is part of his administration's greater plan to roll back civil liberties in the U.S.

In our latest, we talk with legendary civil rights attorney Ron Kuby, who advocated for the flag burners in 1989, about flag burning, McCarthyist strategies by the administration today, anti-semitism, New York mayoral politics and more.

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Ron Kuby-criminal defense and civil rights lawyer based in New York. He was a partner to the late and great William Kunsler. He's also a widely respected legal commentator.

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