Like many feminists, filmmaker Nina Paley has been blacklisted and de-platformed for speaking out in favor of the rights of girls and women. This has happened despite the fact that the content of her work does not overtly challenge trans activism. Recently, however, Paley received a lifetime achievement award from Animikon Fest, an animation festival in Spain, despite them knowing she is blacklisted for her feminist politics. On July 6th, 2020, Thistle sat down with Nina to talk about receiving the award and her experiences of trans activism in her hometown. Ms. Paley makes an important distinction between "trans people" and trans activism in this discussion as well as positing that the best method of dealing with extremists is to ignore them. Nina Paley is the creator of the award-winning animated musical feature films Sita Sings the Blues and Seder-Masochism. She is also a moderator of the popular feminist social media platform, Spinster. Spinster.xyz. She has been deplatformed, banned, and blacklisted for saying penises are male. Thanks for staying tuned to feminist community powered radio, WLRN! Please like, share and comment widely as our grassroots volunteer operation depends on listeners like you to get our work out there and into the femisphere.