
Here & Now Anytime Jack Smith testifies he has proof Trump tried to overturn 2020 election
Jan 22, 2026
Kaohly Her, the first Hmong mayor of St. Paul, shares her firsthand experiences with aggressive ICE operations and the impact on her community, highlighting disturbing reports of using children as bait. Angela Stent, a seasoned Russia analyst, discusses how U.S.-NATO tensions over Greenland are viewed favorably by Russia, reinforcing their narratives. Kyle Cheney offers insights into Jack Smith's compelling testimony on Trump’s alleged election interference, revealing strategic details about presenting the case to Congress and its legal implications.
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Smith Says He Had Convincing Case Against Trump
- Jack Smith told Congress he had proof beyond a reasonable doubt that Trump engaged in a criminal scheme to overturn the 2020 election.
- He explained how he would present witnesses and evidence to a jury to prove the case.
Republicans Target Procedure Over Substance
- Republicans focused much of their questioning on procedural issues like obtaining lawmakers' phone records and the speech or debate clause.
- Kyle Cheney noted these attacks emphasized process over the substance of Smith's allegations against Trump.
Be Wary Of What Public Testimony Reveals
- Smith prepared carefully and limited what he disclosed to avoid creating legal vulnerabilities.
- Reporters assessing high-profile testimony should note what officials can and cannot say under investigation constraints.




