**This episode is updated with a new intro to explain why we are keeping it on the blog despite the federal government remaining open**

Listen to Burnes Center Senior Fellow Seth Harris in conversation with Everett Kelley, president of the American Federation of Government Employees, and Doreen Greenwald, president of the National Treasury Employees Union as they talk federal government shutdown. Listen to how this shutdown will affect workers, both union and non-union alike, the American people, and more.

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