Frank Bruni - The End Of Nuanced and Complicated Conversations? A Zero Sum Game Fosters Competition Versus Connection
Jul 9, 2024
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Leading NY Times writer Frank Bruni discusses American culture's descent into tribalism, grievance politics, and lack of compromise. Social media exacerbates disconnection. Calls for non-partisan primaries and moderation. Emphasizes the need for common ground and recognition of the common good in society.
In a world of tribalism and grievance, fostering common ground and compromise is crucial for a healthy society.
The shift from optimism to pessimism fuels a competitive rather than collaborative spirit in American society.
Grievance spans ideological affiliations, with the right facing more perilous consequences such as election denialism and political violence.
Deep dives
The age of grievance and banishment of nuance
In the episode, the discussion revolves around the age of grievance where nuance has been banished. People are seen as aligning with tribes, filtering information based on team choices, and portraying aspects associated with their team as good, and those with the opposing team as bad. This simplistic view fuels political discord, impedes collaboration, compromise, and common ground, thus hindering a healthy society and functional government.
Grievance's global presence
While the book mainly focused on America, references were made to similar trends in other industrialized democracies like Great Britain post-Brexit. Grievance has been observed as a widespread phenomenon in many industrialized democracies, revealing a shift from fundamental optimism to pessimism with the ethos of individual disappointment and frustration due to unfulfilled promises.
Diversity as a profound social experiment
The episode highlights America's unique role as a laboratory for grievance amidst the experimentation with unprecedented diversity. Acknowledging the fragility and challenges inherent in maintaining a diverse democracy, the importance of tending to this experiment of diversity with care, fostering common ground, and allowing occasional breaks is emphasized.
Transition from optimism to pessimism
The shift from optimism to pessimism in American society was discussed, noting how this change fosters a competitive rather than a collaborative spirit. As Americans become increasingly pessimistic, a zero-sum mentality prevails, hindering trust, cooperation, and a sense of communal prosperity, contributing to political animosity.
Grievance across the political spectrum
The discussion underscored the pervasive nature of grievance that spans ideological affiliations, with a focus on its more consequential and perilous manifestation on the right. While acknowledging a psychology of victimization across the political spectrum, emphasis was placed on the profound and widespread election denialism and organized political violence on the right, posing risks to democracy.
Leading New York Times writer and best-selling author Frank Bruni joined us for an in-depth discussion of his most recent book The Age of Grievance which focuses on American culture's fall into pessimism and the binary world of choosing sides, tribalism, and the pressing need for compromise and common ground. It is somewhat global (as with Brexit) but largely an American phenomenon of a scale never imagined and at the center, says Bruni, is ugly politics. Though more consequential and perilous from the right than from the left, there are grievance merchants and grievance entrepreneurs on both sides and Bruni went into an example on the left side of the political spectrum of the use of identity politics with Brittany Greiner and on the right with the power of Donald Trump. Though originally all about social connection, social media makes all of it worse and creates disconnection. Bruni, a Duke journalism professor, also emphasized the role of the media in exacerbating the pervasive sense of grievance and he spoke of geographic sorting after the Dobbs abortion decision being like social media. He spoke, too, of the power of consumers and the need for more open and non-partisan primaries, ranked-choice voting, and overall moderation and major change in both political and civil culture, including a deeper recognition of the common good and how our welfare is bound together as citizens. We concluded with talk about whether he missed being a restaurant or movie critic, his feelings about being a gay professor, Seinfeld's appearance at Duke, and the extent of emphasis in academia on trigger warnings. A fascinating discussion with one of the nation's leading and most respected thinkers.
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