Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

Bernardo Kastrup Λ Susan Blackmore: Conscious Illusion?

Jun 16, 2023

Susan Blackmore, a psychologist and expert on consciousness, teams up with Bernardo Kastrup, a philosopher and former computer scientist, to unravel the mysteries of consciousness. They embark on a fascinating exploration of illusionism, debating whether consciousness is a mere illusion or a fundamental aspect of reality. Their discussion challenges traditional views on identity, free will, and materialism. They also touch upon personal experiences related to mindfulness and dissociation, pushing the boundaries of how we understand perception and the self.

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Bernardo Kastrup

Susan Blackmore

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Illusionism challenges our assumptions about consciousness and invites exploration into the construction of our model of consciousness.

Analytic idealism suggests that consciousness is fundamental and views the physical world as a subjective manifestation of the mental, offering an alternative to traditional materialism.

Dissociation and dissociative boundaries highlight the malleable nature of mental processes and contribute to our subjective experiences and perceptions of the world.

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Intro

3min

Exploring Consciousness: A Theologution on Idealism and Illusionism

4min

Unraveling Illusionism: Consciousness and Self

17min

Critique of Illusionism in Consciousness Philosophy

3min

Exploring Consciousness and Reality

31min

Exploring the Boundaries of Perception and Consciousness

3min

Exploring Consciousness and Perception

21min

Challenging Materialism

11min

Concluding Thoughts and Community Engagement

2min

Susan Blackmore, psychologist known for her work on consciousness, and Bernardo Kastrup, former computer scientist now philosopher, join us to discuss consciousness. This episode was released early in an ad-free audio version for TOE members at http://theoriesofeverything.org and Patreon: https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal.

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LINKS MENTIONED:

- Daniel Dennett - "Consciousness Explained": https://amzn.to/3Nxz2Pa

- Susan Blackmore - "The Meme Machine": https://amzn.to/3oYdthy