ChatEDU – The AI & Education Podcast

Beyond the Bot and the US AI Presidential Challenge | Ep. 75

Sep 12, 2025
Dr. Casey Sachs, a senior policy advisor at the U.S. Department of Education, discusses the innovative AI Presidential Challenge aimed at engaging students in real-world problem-solving using AI. He reveals details about mentorship opportunities and the challenge's structure across states and regions. Additionally, Dr. Sachs emphasizes the importance of interagency coordination for effective AI education and expanding apprenticeships in key sectors like IT and manufacturing. This conversation uncovers how education and workforce needs intertwine in today's AI landscape.
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INSIGHT

AI Words Enter Everyday Speech

  • Large language model phrasing is seeping into everyday spoken language, especially podcasts and YouTube.
  • Words like "delve," "garner," and "underscore" now appear more often in unscripted speech, showing LLM influence.
ANECDOTE

Chatbot Fabricated Transcript Examples

  • Matt fed their podcast transcript to ChatGPT and it fabricated examples of the hosts using flagged words.
  • The hosts discovered the model sometimes invents instances and even claims lack of access while referencing transcript content.
ADVICE

Verify Claims With Grounded Tools

  • Use grounded retrieval tools like NotebookLM to verify model claims with source transcripts before trusting summaries.
  • Upload actual transcripts to get exact counts and avoid relying on ungrounded model outputs.
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